A very interesting Interview with William Bramley
William Bramley, author of one of the most popular books on ancient astronaut theory, Gods of Eden, has given an exclusive interview for the readers of Ancient-Origins. In this interview he provides some insight as to why extra-terrestrials would wish to be involved with humans and what their plans may be. He also presents a startling new theory called the “Species Replacement Hypothesis”, which, as you will see, he hopes will be proven wrong…
Q: Your book, The Gods of Eden, is one of the most popular and talked-about works on the subject of extra-terrestrial influence on human history, yet you have said that you thought few people would ever read it. Do you think its popularity is a sign that more and more people are coming to accept the idea that extra-terrestrial beings have had, or continue to have, an influence on our history?
A: I think the book taps into a belief that has been around for as long as human beings have been here. It is the idea that intelligent non-human entities are influencing human affairs. We used to call those entities “gods,” “angels,” “demons,” and similar names. But when we look at some of them through modern eyes–through the Ancient Astronaut Hypothesis– they come into focus in a new and startling way. So in a sense, my book is really nothing new. It is saying, “Yes, there may actually be some truth to the belief in non-human intervention, but it’s only today that we can truly start to understand it because of our own advances in knowledge.”
Q: The view you put forward in your book is that extra-terrestrials have always played a very sinister and controlling role in human history, for example, through their involvement in the Black Death in Europe and by influencing wars and other major political events. Could you explain more about this ‘sinister side’ and whether you think extra-terrestrials could have provided any positive influence to humanity?
A: I think the best analogy was expressed by Charles Fort a century ago: “I think we’re property…other worlds explored and colonized here…something now has a legal right to us….[To Earth’s owners, humans are like] pigs, geese, and cattle.”
Look at how we as humans handle our livestock. In many cases, farmers try to treat their animals well. When an animal get sick, the farmer may call in a veterinarian. Many farm workers even develop emotional bonds with some of their favorite creatures. But when the time comes to send their livestock to the slaughterhouse, the farmers will do so. In the meantime, farm workers will forever keep their livestock penned and under control, no matter how well they might otherwise treat their animals.
When you look at UFO abduction reports, you see that humans are treated a lot like livestock. Humans are abducted against their will, they are immobilized, and they have physical procedures performed on them that are often reproductive in nature. The humans are not necessarily treated cruelly, but neither are they treated with the dignity of equals.
To control a large population, you can’t build a large pen around it like you can around a herd of cattle. At least two famous thinkers–Machiavelli and Sun Tzu — spelled out what you do instead. You get the population to endlessly squabble and fight amongst themselves. The theory of my book is simply that this technique may have been applied to the human race as a whole. If the theory is true, I don’t think that the ETs necessarily consider themselves sinister.
Such a method of controlling the human population would simply be a necessary management technique in their minds.
Q: One of the themes you have raised, linked to the title of your book, is that in the story of Eden, ‘God’ made it a sin to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge, and you have hypothesized that ‘God’ actually refers to a race of extra-terrestrials who created humans to serve them but who wanted to keep us ignorant. What type of knowledge do you think this race of extra-terrestrials was trying to withhold from human beings?
A: My theory is that the knowledge is a true understanding about the nature of consciousness, how it relates to the fundamentals of physical reality, and technical knowledge that would make humans a true space-faring race. These categories of knowledge, if developed to a high level, would make human beings rivals to the ET. The Adam and Eve story, the Tower of Babel story, along with their predecessors in earlier Mesopotamian legends, suggest that this knowledge is something that humans will never be allowed to fully attain.
Q: You refer to extra-terrestrials as ‘custodians’ who view human beings like possessions and have sought to control us for thousands of years. Do you think extra-terrestrials have the same level of influence today as they did in ancient times when humanity’s role in ‘serving the Gods’ appeared to be more obvious and direct?
A: I think that obvious and direct control is always more effective and influential than hidden manipulation. The weakness in using indirect methods is that you must usually appeal to the best in people to get them to do the stupid and destructive things that you want them to do. Not everyone goes along.
But if you want to subdue a large population without having to constantly battle uprisings, then you need to use the kind of hidden methods described by Machiavelli and Sun Tzu. So, the ET influence would have been stronger when they were reportedly in open command, but the hidden methods they seem to have adopted later appears to have been effective in accomplishing their ongoing governance goals.
Q: Gods of Eden has presented extra-terrestrials as beings that remain very much in the background of events on earth. Do you think the day will come that they will reveal themselves to people, and why do you think they have not done so, so far?
A: This question will require a long answer. It will also involve going into the paranoid fringe in a big way.
My theory is that the ETs have not revealed themselves more openly because they are still engaged in the same management techniques that they started long ago. The Earth is a nice piece of real estate, and they want to keep it in their portfolio without challenges from the inhabitants. The continued secrecy may also serve future plans….plans that have perhaps been on the books for a long time and have yet to be consummated.
It might seem unrealistic that such activity could go on continuously for thousands of years. My best answer is that the ETs probably experience time differently than we do. A good analogy might be to compare humans to worker ants. Worker ants live about ninety days. If we maintain an ant farm for five years, that will be twenty generations of worker ants. To the ants, twenty generations is a very long time, but to us humans, we only experience it as five years of human life. I suspect that something similar may be true in regard to our relationship to the ETs.
My second theory is based on the UFO abduction literature from recent times. Many abductees have reported that the ETs are breeding human-ET hybrids. Ten years after The Gods of Eden was first published, a book called The Threat came out by Dr. David Jacobs who suggests that this breeding effort may be a large-scale program. When I read that, I thought, uh-oh, this might be a sign of what I feared could happen.
I had always thought that if my theory was true, the ETs would probably feel a need to take action when the human race began to develop too much knowledge and technology. Based upon some of the Ancient Astronaut evidence, the Great Flood legend, and the UFO evidence connected to the Black Death, my guess was that the ETs’ solution would be another annihilation of humans, perhaps next time completely. Such annihilation might be in connection with their creation of a new version of Homo sapiens that is more compatible with the ETs to replace us, just as custodial ETs had reportedly done in pre-history to create the current version of homo sapiens back in the day when they needed slaves. It would be a repetition of the scenario of “out with the old, and in with the new” to fit their changing needs over time.
Now this is where we really go into the paranoid conspiracy stuff. Parallel to the ET hybrid program, we see trends suggesting that conditions are being set up on Earth to repeat the scenario of the Black Death. The Black Death was actually a four-part event. First there was famine, then there was disease, then were human-on-human massacres based on religious fanaticism, and at some point in all of this there was a much more visible manifestation of UFOs and mysterious “men in black” spreading aerosols that people claimed were causing the plague.
In today’s society, we are seeing a gradual consolidation of the human food supply into ever fewer hands as the result of corporate farming, seed patents, and the loss of bees and other pollinators what will cause us to become more dependent on grains which are becoming increasingly monopolized through seed patents. If these trends continue, a time will be reached when it will be possible to abruptly pull the plug on a very large portion of the global food supply and cause a relentless worldwide famine. At the same time, some governments continue to stockpile biological weapons that those governments can probably be induced to release during a time of dire stress. Religious radicalism is being kept alive, and in the event that the food supply is massively cut and a pandemic starts, we can expect to see religious radicals of all persuasions induce people to commit slaughters of the non-believers who will be blamed for the catastrophe just like the Christians did to the Jews during the Black Death. If the pattern holds, then somewhere in this entire process we can expect to see a much more visible manifestation of UFOs as they eradicate the surviving humans.
The speculative scenario that I just described is also based, in part, on reports that many UFO abductees are being told by their ET captors that a great catastrophe is coming, and some UFO abductees are being trained, oddly enough, in crowd control. That does not bode well.
Anyway, I hope that this “Species Replacement Hypothesis” is wrong. If it is not, then yes, there will likely be a much more visible manifestation of UFOs in the future, but it would not be a happy event. That is why, at times, I hope that the UFO debunkers are right and there are no ETs around here. That thought is actually much more comforting to me than looking at the UFO evidence.
If you haven’t read it already we highly recommend to read William Bramley’s book the Gods of Eden, it is the top book in its category.